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#50681 Sense of direction

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:26 am
by Yarjka
I always thought that by saying "going down to Salt Lake" I was doing so in terms of elevation. I always say I'm going down somewhere when the elevation is lower than where I'm at. I say "going up to Park City" and "going up to Manti", but if I was in Park City, I would say "going down to Manti" and "going down to Provo" etc. regardless of location on a map. Perhaps "going up to campus" is a better example ... direction doesn't play a role in this at all for me, but if I need to climb up a mountain to get there, I'm going up. If I'm on the "Y", I'm going to go down to campus.

However, this seems to only hold true in short distances. I would still say "going down to South America" or "going up to the North Pole" regardless of the actual elevation of the place. So, I guess I also have the "North is up"-centric view of the world.

This question reminded me of that scene in City Slickers 2, where Daniel Stern says "North on a map is always up, so ... we should go up."

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:02 pm
by Katya
I think it's possible for both elevation and geography to come into play when you're talking about "up" and "down." I also seem to remember reading a language log post where up and down referred to upstream and downstream, maybe in an area of Montana. (And the "down" in "Downeast Maine" refers to downwind, I'm told.)

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:50 pm
by Whistler
yeah, doesn't Nephi do the same thing (saying "down" to mean elevation)?

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:04 pm
by Giovanni Schwartz
Yeah! That's what my thoughts were too. But driving below the library? Is there really a tunnel? =]

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:02 am
by Katya
Giovanni Schwartz wrote:Yeah! That's what my thoughts were too. But driving below the library? Is there really a tunnel? =]
Actually . . .

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:36 am
by Giovanni Schwartz
Let me rephrase. Is there a tunnel open enough to people that the average student may drive a car through it? But thanks katya, I sniggered when I read that.