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Re: #59408 - Girls/boys and men/women

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:38 am
by bobtheenchantedone
I have called my parents "dude" before.

Re: #59408 - Girls/boys and men/women

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:38 am
by Emiliana
Katya wrote:
Emiliana wrote:Heh. I'm surprised at myself for not catching that, Dead Cat. I'm sure there's some sociolinguistic implication about why we say "girls and boys" but not usually "women and men," but I'm not sure what it is.
I say "boys and girls" more than "girls and boys."
I think I probably say "boys and girls" more often, but "girls and boys" doesn't sound odd to me. Where as "women and men does." In the one linguistics class I took, I learned a word for phrases like that -- pairs like "salt and pepper" that we almost always say in the same order. But now I can't remember the word, and it's bothering me. Do you know, Katya?

Re: #59408 - Girls/boys and men/women

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:12 am
by Foreman
Emiliana wrote:
Katya wrote:
Emiliana wrote:Heh. I'm surprised at myself for not catching that, Dead Cat. I'm sure there's some sociolinguistic implication about why we say "girls and boys" but not usually "women and men," but I'm not sure what it is.
I say "boys and girls" more than "girls and boys."
I think I probably say "boys and girls" more often, but "girls and boys" doesn't sound odd to me. Where as "women and men does." In the one linguistics class I took, I learned a word for phrases like that -- pairs like "salt and pepper" that we almost always say in the same order. But now I can't remember the word, and it's bothering me. Do you know, Katya?
I don't know the word for it, but I know the Dinosaur Comic for it! And that's good enough for me.

http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=759

(Also, it seems Marduk follows T-Rex's school of conflict resolution.)

Re: #59408 - Girls/boys and men/women

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:09 am
by ahem.
Fixed expressions. Also called collocations?

Re: #59408 - Girls/boys and men/women

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:14 am
by Emiliana
Collocations! That's the word I was looking for. Thanks, ahem. :) Also, I agree that dinner invitations fix all... There's an Arab proverb that says, "War is temporary, but tea is forever." (A bit off topic, you say? Perhaps. But I'm not good at staying on topic, as any of my students or co-workers could tell you...)

Re: #59408 - Girls/boys and men/women

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:22 am
by krebscout
They Might Be Giants is stuck in my head now.