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Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:45 pm
by Katya
melbabi wrote:I got a fairly aggressive goodbye.
I guess we'll see if it sticks.

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:05 pm
by Dragon Lady
Whistler wrote:I should probably feel bad, or something
Because he's leaving or because you didn't (or did?) get a goodbye message?

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:09 pm
by TheAnswerIs42
I got a goodbye too. Very odd.

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:05 pm
by Imogen
melbabi wrote:I got a fairly aggressive goodbye.
mine was pretty nice. i wonder why yours would be more aggressive?

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:17 pm
by Dead Cat
I'm gonna miss the old guy. I associate him with Sean Connery's face more than I do with Sean Connery.

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:29 pm
by thebigcheese
Dead Cat wrote:I'm gonna miss the old guy. I associate him with Sean Connery's face more than I do with Sean Connery.
Haha, same here.

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:46 pm
by melbabi
Imogen wrote:mine was pretty nice. i wonder why yours would be more aggressive?
I don't know, but for those that are curious, this is what he said, "I hope I didn't annoy you too much. I'm sorry if I offended you or hurt your feelings. Well, I won't be doing that again. Have fun affirming and validating. Goodbye."

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:35 pm
by mic0
Mine was just the "I hope I didn't annoy you too much." And, "won't be doing that again." Very curt.

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:41 pm
by UnluckyStuntman
melbabi wrote:
Imogen wrote:mine was pretty nice. i wonder why yours would be more aggressive?
I don't know, but for those that are curious, this is what he said, "I hope I didn't annoy you too much. I'm sorry if I offended you or hurt your feelings. Well, I won't be doing that again. Have fun affirming and validating. Goodbye."
kind of a snarky apology...

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:52 pm
by krebscout
UnluckyStuntman wrote:kind of a snarky apology...
Isn't that why we loved him?

I don't know how much difference this will make, VB, but we don't want you to leave. Did you even see those messages while you were in India about how much we missed you? You're an essential part of the flavor of this forum, not to mention a funny and insightful guy with cute grandkids.

But if it's too late to keep you around, well, best of luck to you and your family.

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:09 am
by UnluckyStuntman
krebscout wrote:
UnluckyStuntman wrote:kind of a snarky apology...
Isn't that why we loved him?

I don't know how much difference this will make, VB, but we don't want you to leave. Did you even see those messages while you were in India about how much we missed you? You're an essential part of the flavor of this forum, not to mention a funny and insightful guy with cute grandkids.

But if it's too late to keep you around, well, best of luck to you and your family.
I'm all for being snarky, but not in apologies. It sort of defeats the purpose.

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:17 am
by melbabi
UnluckyStuntman wrote:I'm all for being snarky, but not in apologies. It sort of defeats the purpose.
Agreed.

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:19 am
by Katya
krebscout wrote:
UnluckyStuntman wrote:kind of a snarky apology...
Isn't that why we loved him?

I don't know how much difference this will make, VB, but we don't want you to leave.
Speak for yourself, ma'am. I, for one, am beyond pissed off that he was allowed to argue, intimidate, and bully others into silence and submission for so long, then turn around and say that we were hurting his feelings whenever we tried to call him on it.

I am sorry that he apparently can't be objective enough about his behavior to understand our criticisms and to make appropriate modifications—I actually thought we were getting through to him, this time, and I can't believe that this message board is the only forum where his mindset has such a negative impact on his ability to interact with others. However, I'm not going to read his goodbye note to me. We don't have a relationship such that I feel I owe him anything.

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:59 am
by wired
To be frank, with the exception I describe below, I have generally ignored Vorpal Blade's posts. Not because he annoys me, just because his posts have been far too long for me to care about.

However, to continue with my frankness at the risk of being wildly insensitive, I have doubted VB's authenticity since he first emerged here. I just remember reading a few initial posts where he referenced his wife in a way that seemed over-dramatic. Now, this could have been just VB's style of authoring posts at that time. However, it came across as wildly over the top and I doubted its veracity. I was, then, quite surprised (and re-assured) that he was going to meet Marduk for a chess match. I looked at this as a confirmation that he did actually exist in the way that he said he had. But now, with this sudden disappearance, it makes me all the more suspicious of his authenticity.

I don't categorically believe VB isn't who he says he is. I am saying that his posts have raised more flags for me then is typical and I would not be surprised if he were a fictitious individual.

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:43 am
by Dragon Lady
wired wrote:I don't categorically believe VB isn't who he says he is. I am saying that his posts have raised more flags for me then is typical and I would not be surprised if he were a fictitious individual.
Ooooh… like a cartoon character come to life? ;)

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:46 am
by wired
Dragon Lady wrote:
wired wrote:I don't categorically believe VB isn't who he says he is. I am saying that his posts have raised more flags for me then is typical and I would not be surprised if he were a fictitious individual.
Ooooh… like a cartoon character come to life? ;)
Or like Sean Connery in the Bond films.

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:27 pm
by TheBlackSheep
I, for one, think that Vorpal is exactly who he says he is. This is only because of personal emails that he has sent me in response to things I wrote on the Board way back when. And there was the thank you he sent me when I stuck up for him once. And a previous I'm-sorry-I-won't-post-anymore email. I'm a little uncomfortable letting this be known on the internet, for his privacy, but I'd rather represent him as something other than a troll.

He drives me insane and he knows this, and I will probably never be able to really forgive him for the Gay Blade incident, but I did read and respond to his note to me, if only to let him know that the reasons I've felt hurt or attacked or angry in the past had little to do with what he was apologizing to me personally for.

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:38 pm
by thebigcheese
Yeah, I don't doubt his authenticity either. But I do feel bad that he left...I think he could have easily toned it down a bit and continued on without a problem. But I guess he didn't get that vibe.

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:46 pm
by Dragon Lady
I also feel bad that he left. I feel bad for the way everything has been going the last couple of weeks. He sent me a very nice good-bye note to which I responded with a wish that he wouldn't leave and my explanation to him as to how and why he should change his debate tactics to fit the tone of this forum. I do not think he is a poor, innocent victim, but neither do I think that he has been treated nicely, either.

Mostly I hate drama. I've had too much of it in my life and have watched it destroy far too many relationships and I'm very sad to see it do it once again. E. Uchtdorf said in the last general conference, "As we turn to our Heavenly Father and seek His wisdom regarding the things that matter most, we learn over and over again the importance of four key relationships: with our God, with our families, with our fellowman, and with ourselves." I hate to see relationships destroyed over differences of opinion. It seems an awful waste of time, energy, and mental/spiritual health.

Re: Marduk-Vorpal Chess

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:59 pm
by wired
TheBlackSheep wrote:I, for one, think that Vorpal is exactly who he says he is. This is only because of personal emails that he has sent me in response to things I wrote on the Board way back when. And there was the thank you he sent me when I stuck up for him once. And a previous I'm-sorry-I-won't-post-anymore email. I'm a little uncomfortable letting this be known on the internet, for his privacy, but I'd rather represent him as something other than a troll.

He drives me insane and he knows this, and I will probably never be able to really forgive him for the Gay Blade incident, but I did read and respond to his note to me, if only to let him know that the reasons I've felt hurt or attacked or angry in the past had little to do with what he was apologizing to me personally for.
I'll trust your opinion over my own. I haven't had any other conversations or interactions with him outside of what he has posted here.