Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:30 pm
So is there anything that actually has the soft e? Only if it isn't a one syllable word?
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Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:33 pm
To me, the only one different is Craig.
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:35 pm
I don't think my pronunciations are entirely consistent, but I think this is generally how it goes:
No dipthong: peg, keg, beg, Meg, Greg
Dipthong: Craig, egg, leg
So, "Craig's leg" has matching vowels, but "peg-leg" doesn't.
No dipthong: peg, keg, beg, Meg, Greg
Dipthong: Craig, egg, leg
So, "Craig's leg" has matching vowels, but "peg-leg" doesn't.
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:26 pm
For me, Craig is the same as peg, keg, beg, Meg (all with an 'eh' sound).
Egg and leg rhyme with an 'ai' sound.
Egg and leg rhyme with an 'ai' sound.
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:02 pm
I usually pronounce Craig with an 'eh' unless I've been listening and it's pronounced differently Sometimes that happens. I try to be sensitive to that since my name is often mispronounced in a similar way (i.e., I can tell they're talking to me even though they're saying it wrong).
At work today I had people pronounce "egg" and they all said it right except one, who said it "ayg". Poor guy. We're praying for him.
At work today I had people pronounce "egg" and they all said it right except one, who said it "ayg". Poor guy. We're praying for him.
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:24 am
So this evening at choir practice, our director told us "You can't sing well with Mormon accents! I want you to get rid of them!"
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:41 am
I'm so glad my name in real life has zero variations in pronunciation. Unless it does... (Marduk? You spell it weird, but they're said the same... have you heard any weird pronunciations?)
Just to spoil things, my real name isn't Craig, which I rhyme with Greg. But I say egg ayg. Pray for me.
Just to spoil things, my real name isn't Craig, which I rhyme with Greg. But I say egg ayg. Pray for me.
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:05 am
I don't see any phonological pattern there.Cindy wrote:I don't think my pronunciations are entirely consistent, but I think this is generally how it goes:
No dipthong: peg, keg, beg, Meg, Greg
Dipthong: Craig, egg, leg
(Unless we throw out "Craig" and just go with frequency, which is boooring.)Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:28 am
Hey, mate. I'm sure we could come up with some way to mispronounce your name.Craig Jessop wrote:I'm so glad my name in real life has zero variations in pronunciation. Unless it does... (Marduk? You spell it weird, but they're said the same... have you heard any weird pronunciations?)
Just to spoil things, my real name isn't Craig, which I rhyme with Greg. But I say egg ayg. Pray for me.
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:48 am
Funny.Giovanni Schwartz wrote:Hey, mate. I'm sure we could come up with some way to mispronounce your name.Craig Jessop wrote:I'm so glad my name in real life has zero variations in pronunciation. Unless it does... (Marduk? You spell it weird, but they're said the same... have you heard any weird pronunciations?)
Just to spoil things, my real name isn't Craig, which I rhyme with Greg. But I say egg ayg. Pray for me.
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:01 am
I have not. My last name, on the other hand, is a different story....Craig Jessop wrote: (Marduk? You spell it weird, but they're said the same... have you heard any weird pronunciations?)
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:09 pm
You're sooooooooooo funny.Giovanni Schwartz wrote:Hey, mate. I'm sure we could come up with some way to mispronounce your name.Craig Jessop wrote:I'm so glad my name in real life has zero variations in pronunciation. Unless it does... (Marduk? You spell it weird, but they're said the same... have you heard any weird pronunciations?)
Just to spoil things, my real name isn't Craig, which I rhyme with Greg. But I say egg ayg. Pray for me.
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:08 pm
UPDATE: It turns out this girl who drives me nuts IS THE PROFESSOR'S DAUGHTER. I'm glad I didn't make fun of her to her face now.Craig Jessop wrote:There's this girl in one of my classes who seems to have this weird obsession with pronouncing things "properly." She pointedly avoids the glottal stop, in the middle and at the end of words. It sounds stilted and awkward. Maybe that's just my Western American dialect speaking, but I wish she could allow herself to pronounce words like the rest of the world does!
(examples: Columbus wouldn'T yielD to the pressure of his so-ver-eignS).
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:23 pm
Yeah, but is she hot? That's the important question.
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:48 pm
What class is it? (I.e., does it have anything to do with language?)Craig Jessop wrote:UPDATE: It turns out this girl who drives me nuts IS THE PROFESSOR'S DAUGHTER. I'm glad I didn't make fun of her to her face now.Craig Jessop wrote:There's this girl in one of my classes who seems to have this weird obsession with pronouncing things "properly." She pointedly avoids the glottal stop, in the middle and at the end of words. It sounds stilted and awkward. Maybe that's just my Western American dialect speaking, but I wish she could allow herself to pronounce words like the rest of the world does!
(examples: Columbus wouldn'T yielD to the pressure of his so-ver-eignS).
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:27 pm
Nah, it's a history class. It's pretty writing intensive, even for a history class, but it's not language based. As to her physical attractiveness, Marduk... I will refrain from comment. You never know who reads these forums, and ribald or disparaging comments are bad form anyway.
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:30 pm
This isn't Utah-specific, but in church the other day I noticed that several people said "foyer" as if there were an extra "r" in there—"foryer". It's not super-heavy, but it's definitely there. I find this interesting.
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:59 am
Interesting! I wonder if that's the same phenomenon that gives us "warsh" for "wash."Laser Jock wrote:This isn't Utah-specific, but in church the other day I noticed that several people said "foyer" as if there were an extra "r" in there—"foryer". It's not super-heavy, but it's definitely there. I find this interesting.
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:18 am
Or the person from Britain in my programme (see what I did there) who says "drawring" (I can't even write that one out--it's crazy how it's pronounced)Katya wrote:Interesting! I wonder if that's the same phenomenon that gives us "warsh" for "wash."Laser Jock wrote:This isn't Utah-specific, but in church the other day I noticed that several people said "foyer" as if there were an extra "r" in there—"foryer". It's not super-heavy, but it's definitely there. I find this interesting.
Re: Linguistic patterns in Utah (question #68779)
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:46 am
Heh.Yarjka wrote:Or the person from Britain in my programme (see what I did there) . . .Katya wrote:Interesting! I wonder if that's the same phenomenon that gives us "warsh" for "wash."Laser Jock wrote:This isn't Utah-specific, but in church the other day I noticed that several people said "foyer" as if there were an extra "r" in there—"foryer". It's not super-heavy, but it's definitely there. I find this interesting.
That at least looks like it could be explained as an overgeneralized linking r (although it's intriguing that it occurs within the word).Yarjka wrote:. . . who says "drawring" (I can't even write that one out--it's crazy how it's pronounced)