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Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:23 am
by Katya
As I mentioned in another thread, the current "Popular Questions" stats are kind of boring, because Board 5.0 is so new. However, we Board readers have the power to change that by rating some older questions from the archives.

I therefore propose that, each day, we go back and rate the questions posted exactly one month ago, two months ago, three months ago, etc., back to one year ago. If we do this for a month, we'll have rated questions for all of the last year.

For convenience, here are the links to the questions posted on July 5, June 5, etc.

http://theboard.byu.edu/questions/archives/2010/jul/05/
http://theboard.byu.edu/questions/archives/2010/jun/05/
http://theboard.byu.edu/questions/archives/2010/may/05/
http://theboard.byu.edu/questions/archives/2010/apr/05/
http://theboard.byu.edu/questions/archives/2010/mar/05/
http://theboard.byu.edu/questions/archives/2010/feb/05/
http://theboard.byu.edu/questions/archives/2010/jan/05/
http://theboard.byu.edu/questions/archives/2009/dec/05/
http://theboard.byu.edu/questions/archives/2009/nov/05/
http://theboard.byu.edu/questions/archives/2009/oct/05/
http://theboard.byu.edu/questions/archives/2009/sep/05/
http://theboard.byu.edu/questions/archives/2009/aug/05/

Please leave a comment in this thread when you've finished so that we know how many people are rating old questions.

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:51 am
by NerdGirl
Done.

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:06 am
by Katya
Thanks! I've finished, too.

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:53 pm
by Laser Jock
Also done.

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:05 pm
by Katya
Awesome! Now only 5 of last week's questions are in the overall top 10. This is definite progress.

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:28 pm
by C is for
The Board title bar today is certainly apt.

See you all tomorrow to do it again!

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:32 am
by Dead Cat
I've done it for...yesterday. I'll get today after I get some sleep. I also voted on my first page of favorites and a bunch more pretty willy nilly. So I guess I'm an over-underachiever.

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:15 am
by Katya
Dead Cat wrote:So I guess I'm an over-underachiever.
Whatever you can do is good enough. Along those lines, I was surprised at how long it took to go over the past year. Would doing just the past six months be easier for everyone?

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:38 am
by Katya

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:01 am
by NerdGirl
Done. It does take a bit of time to go through the whole year, but it's fun so it's okay.

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:49 am
by C is for
I like doing the whole year. I also think that when we're done with the month we should go on to even earlier! May as well vote for the whole Board.

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:54 am
by Katya
C is for wrote:I also think that when we're done with the month we should go on to even earlier!
Agreed. After this month, I was going to suggest taking a year to go through the whole archives, day by day. (I.e., 6 Aug 2010, 6 Aug 2009, 6 Aug 2008, 6 Aug 2007, etc.) It gets easier as you go back because fewer and fewer questions were posted every day. If you've got the time to go back farther right now, go for it!

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:54 am
by Yellow
Speaking of making the stats more interesting, I'm interested in some feedback.

Currently, the ranking for most popular questions is determined by adding up the votes on each individual answer. This means that a question with a bunch of pretty good answers can be considered, even if it doesn't have any single outstanding answer. It also means that a question with a lot of answers has a greater chance at being considered "popular", but they're also penalized if they only have one awesome answer and a bunch of mediocre ones. I'm not sure if this is how we want things to be ranked; maybe we do, and maybe we don't.

There are other ways we could do it. For example, we could average the votes on all responses. This would mean that a question with one great answer and a bunch of lame answers wouldn't be ranked as highly. We could also just use the maximum vote count of any response attached to the question. That would mean that it wouldn't matter how many answers a question had, but it would also mean that if you had two answers with 11 and 10 votes respectively, you'd still only have 11 votes for the whole question.

I'm not sure what the best answer is. Any thoughts?

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:08 pm
by Marduk
It seems like adding the sum total of all votes for a response has the side effect of favoring those questions that have multiple responses and penalizes those with only one answer, even if it is better. It seems like we're trying to bring the cream to the top, so I think the best way to do that is to only consider the highest voted on any given question, and disregard all others. This way, the top responses rise, regardless of how many answers there are.

Averaging responses does the same on the surface, but an excellent response can be dragged down by the addition of mediocre responses.

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:19 pm
by Indefinite Integral
Done for today!

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:06 pm
by NerdGirl
I like the idea of basing it on the maximum vote count of any response.

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:49 pm
by Katya
Third vote for "maximum vote," for the reasons Marduk outlined.

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:51 pm
by Katya
Indefinite Integral wrote:Done for today!
Thanks, i^2.

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:57 pm
by Dead Cat
Maximum voting: fourthed, or whatever number we're on now. I did my voting for the sixth of ______'s and did more of My Favorites and some of My Questions as well. I think voting for these last two too is a Good Idea.

Re: Making the stats more interesting

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:38 am
by Yellow
Maximum voting is now in. Or, at least, will be within 15 minutes or so; whenever the cache on that page expires.