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Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:10 pm
by Craig Jessop
Wait, so Daryl Gibson weighed in on this? As in the Daryl Gibson from the NewsNet? I'm interested to know any behind the scenes interactions that have taken place, perhaps from a doubly anonymous 'nym for a writer!

And I thought Gibson's response totally rocked, by the way. Something about what Queen Alice said didn't sit right with me; while I obviously can't preclude a revelation giving women the priesthood, something tells me that it isn't going to happen -- after all, there have never been any promises made of women receiving the priesthood someday, while there were plenty about the blacks.

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:22 pm
by Dragon Lady
link?

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:24 pm
by Craig Jessop

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:26 pm
by thebigcheese
Craig Jessop wrote:I thought Gibson's response totally rocked, by the way.
I second this notion.

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:38 pm
by Dragon Lady
Daryl Gibson, yes, the Daryl Gibson of NewsNet, often writes in comments. He reads daily and keeps the writers accountable to NewsNet.

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:07 pm
by NerdGirl
Who is this Daryl Gibson guy? I've seen his comments a lot, but I didn't know he was some kind of big deal.

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:30 pm
by Dragon Lady
I didn't know he was some kind of big deal, either. :) Craig's gonna have to answer that. I just know that he works at NewsNet and is our immediate superior.

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:31 pm
by Laser Jock

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:54 pm
by Dragon Lady
Whoa. That's not at all how I pictured him. Though, that's typically the case. I rarely picture people the way they are.

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:11 pm
by Daryl Gibson
Dragon Lady wrote:Whoa. That's not at all how I pictured him. Though, that's typically the case. I rarely picture people the way they are.
Sorry. I entered my ugly stage at age 11, and never quite grew out of it. You might have a different opinion of me if I were wearing my 3 Stooges tie, though. It's quite becoming.

-- Daryl Gibson

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:32 pm
by TheAnswerIs42
LOL. Nice to meet you, Daryl! Welcome!

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:03 pm
by Dragon Lady
Bahaha! I feel like I just got caught with my hand in the cookie jar or something.

I did that once. Except it was the candy jar. I was probably 3 or so and my mom came down to find my hand in the candy jar. I put the lid back on (my hand still inside). My mom asked me what I was doing and I replied, "Trust me, Mom." Haha. I love that story. I love to picture 3-year old Dragon Lady saying "Trust me". Love it.

And Daryl, it wasn't that, it was more that I pictured you a lot more nerdy. The really tall black hair with the bangs that swoop out (bad description?) and the super nerdy glasses. Would the 3 Stooges tie would help you look more nerdy?

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:51 pm
by Daryl Gibson
Dragon Lady wrote:Bahaha! I feel like I just got caught with my hand in the cookie jar or something.

And Daryl, it wasn't that, it was more that I pictured you a lot more nerdy. The really tall black hair with the bangs that swoop out (bad description?) and the super nerdy glasses. Would the 3 Stooges tie would help you look more nerdy?
I'm not really Sheldon-style nerdy, I'm afraid. My wife no longer lets me wear either the Stooge tie or the fish tie. She does allow me to wear a Flying Toasters tie occasionally, though. And thank you DL, and 42 for the welcome. I just couldn't resist speaking up.

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:48 pm
by NerdGirl
Wow, hi, Daryl Gibson! I had no idea that was a real name until today. I just assumed it was made up, like "Givovanni Schwarz". And I think I have several of your comments favorited, as you seem to know a lot of random useful information.

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:04 pm
by Daryl Gibson
NerdGirl wrote:Wow, hi, Daryl Gibson! I had no idea that was a real name until today. I just assumed it was made up, like "Givovanni Schwarz". And I think I have several of your comments favorited, as you seem to know a lot of random useful information.
Thanks. Yes, I appear to be real -- of course, how could you prove otherwise? I know a lot of information, most of it useless, but occasionally even I find something useful to offer.

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:16 pm
by UnluckyStuntman
I'm not sure if Queen Alice will see this or not, but I wanted to say thanks for thinking outside of the box on this one. The existence of Prophetesses may not be a wide-held belief within the LDS community, but the idea is certainly intriguing.

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:13 am
by Tao
Daryl Gibson wrote:Thanks. Yes, I appear to be real -- of course, how could you prove otherwise? I know a lot of information, most of it useless, but occasionally even I find something useful to offer.
Heh, I've wondered if I'd pass a Turing test....

Just weighing in to toss in my thanks as well. Good to see you on the boardboard.

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:37 pm
by Waldorf and Sauron
In related news, what's a priestess?

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:07 pm
by Tao
Waldorf and Sauron wrote:In related news, what's a priestess?
An old cow.

(for the non-linkers, Priest comes from the Greek presbyteros "an elder," also an adj. meaning "older," comparative of presbys "old," possibly originally "one who leads the cattle," from *pres- "before" + root of bous "cow.")

Re: Female Apostle

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:42 pm
by Queen Alice
Hey guys! I just joined this forum. Woo hoo!

I wanted to clarify my reason for including the priestess story. I agree with Mr. Gibson that "prophet" and "apostle" aren't always synonymous (an apostle is a prophet but a prophet isn't necessarily an apostle); however I was using the story to illustrate the point that people will do mental gymnastics to come up with rationalizations and excuses instead of stating the obvious when it comes to sensitive/taboo subjects. I wasn't using the anecdote to say, "Hey, if women were prophetesses, that means they were also/could be apostles." It was a comment on the larger topic of women and the priesthood (not restricted to just apostles). Did anyone else think it was weird that my fellow RS sisters' answers ignored the possibility that women were actually prophetesses, i.e., the female equivalent of a prophet?

Also, I noticed that out of three answers and one comment, mine was the only one written by a woman. Does that seem interesting to anyone else that a question about women and the priesthood was mainly answered by men? It was also the only one to recognize the possibility of a change in who is ordained to the priesthood in the future. I feel like the other writers and Mr. Gibson actually just proved my point that people's knee-jerk reaction is just to deny that things in the church could change and to quickly come up with all of the reasons why the change couldn't happen (instead of thinking of reasons why it could).