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Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:14 pm
by vorpal blade
Marduk edit, since I like links, this is Question 61900
Hypatia wrote:For those of you who don't read the Board Hate Board, I said the following in a rather hilarious and heated thread about...goodness, I still don't even know what the thread was about; I just know I had a lot of fun poking at Vorpal Blade, Tao, and Marduk:
Hypatia refers to this forum as the Board Hate Board. I love the Board. Do any of you hate the Board? Is Hypatia just poking at us all, again? What do you think? I realize this is not the subject of the question asked by "Not Adam Savage," but I'm curious about what everyone here thinks about this reference to this forum. And...how do you feel about someone having fun poking at you?
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:40 pm
by C is for
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:43 pm
by Dead Cat
I think she was making a subliminal point. In the question you refer to, she was accused of hating Mythbusters, when she does not. She expresses a difference of opinion with them, but still appreciates what they do.
Here on the Board Board, we don't always say "Hey, that post was awesome! There was absolutely nothing in it that I would add or change!" Often, we start a new topic in Reader Response to bring up a point that we didn't entirely agree with, and sometimes those turn into fights and rants about who is right.
If speaking up about a difference of opinion is hate, then Hypatia hates Mythbusters and we hate the Board. If speaking up about our differing opinions is a form of love, then Hypatia loves Mythbusters and we love the Board.
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:00 pm
by Katya
I'd characterize these ones as bug reports, not as hate.
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:01 pm
by Craig Jessop
I asked the question, and I totally didn't interpret her remark as hating Mythbusters! I just wanted to find out why she thought their methods were unscientific! I'm a liberal arts major! I don't know these things!
Sigh.
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:26 pm
by Katya
Craig Jessop wrote:I asked the question, and I totally didn't interpret her remark as hating Mythbusters! I just wanted to find out why she thought their methods were unscientific! I'm a liberal arts major! I don't know these things!
Sigh.
http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=1156
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:03 pm
by Humble Master
I've had to defend Mythbusters from the scientifically-minded before. The point of the show is in no way to provide hard scientific evidence. They generally look at if an insane sequence of events could possibly ever lead to a specific result. They manipulate all the factors because they're trying to see "What if..." Sometimes they touch on science, because that will be a huge factor in what they're doing, but they don't claim to be running scientifically sound experiments that would stand up to peer review.
Oh, and I don't think this message board hates the 100 Hour Board.
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:15 pm
by C is for
Katya wrote:
I'd characterize these ones as bug reports, not as hate.
But how dare they have bugs in the first place?!
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:48 pm
by Marduk
So, I read that question, and Hypatia said "I said the following" on the board, and then I didn't ever see to what she was referring. Oh well.
I think there is an analogy to be drawn here. The scientific-minded hold Mythbusters (or more specifically, those who hold Mythbusters experiments as evidence for a particular claim) to task, citing the faults with what they do.
And when a board question comes in as sub-par, we hold them to task for what they have failed to do. As well we should; no writing should ever be without scrutiny.
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:14 pm
by mic0
Except that Hypatia goes on to say she really enjoys the show and just wouldn't think of it as hard science.
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:28 pm
by Dragon Lady
Marduk wrote:So, I read that question, and Hypatia said "I said the following" on the board, and then I didn't ever see to what she was referring. Oh well.
It's indented just below that. "I'll warn you right off the bat that the science conducted in this study is more despicable than Mythbusters methods…"
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:36 pm
by thebigcheese
If there's anything we all hate, it's ambiguity. So we try to clarify it.
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:52 pm
by Dragon Lady
For what it's worth, I don't think you guys (we, I guess?) are the Hate Board. But I do, on occasion, think that some on the boardmb must hate the writers by the way things are written. Sometimes I'm surprised that some people even still read the Board, since most I read from them is criticism. The writers get defensive about that and the readers get defensive about the writers being defensive. Which starts threads with everyone yelling and no one being sure what anyone is yelling about. So I could see how one could see the Boardmb as a Hate Board.
Or, perhaps, she's being sarcastic.

She's good at that.
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:19 pm
by Humble Master
Dragon Lady wrote:Or, perhaps, she's being sarcastic.

She's good at that.
There's no place for a voice of reason on an internet message board.
Sometimes I play game when I read a news article on a national site. How many comments before something needlessly antagonist and/or offensive is said? It's almost always under five. I can't play this game very often because I lose my faith in humanity.
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:44 pm
by Waldorf and Sauron
I thought this was the Board Hate Hate Board, where we get to criticize the criticisms of the board.
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:15 pm
by thebigcheese
Humble Master wrote:There's no place for a voice of reason on an internet message board.
Sometimes I play a game when I read a news article on a national site. How many comments before something needlessly antagonist and/or offensive is said. It's almost always under five. I can't play this game very often because I lose my faith in humanity.
Oh gosh. I enjoy hearing opposing viewpoints, so I often scroll through the comments on news articles. But it's true...you can't hardly get more than a few comments into it before people start with the namecalling, accusations, and horrendously disrespectful behavior. It's disgusting.
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:35 pm
by Craig Jessop
It's so true. The Arizona Republic is covering controversy surrounding the Phoenix Temple and its neighbors, and the comments are so ridiculous. I don't care what people have to say about that cult church building it, I just want to hear about the temple!
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:15 pm
by Marduk
I certainly would hate to think that we'd be lumped in with any of those, though. It certainly would reflect poorly on me, at least.
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:34 am
by thebigcheese
I don't think any of us are that bad.
Re: Hate the Board #61900
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:22 am
by wired
Waldorf and Sauron wrote:I thought this was the Board Hate Hate Board, where we get to criticize the criticisms of the board.
No, that's the 100 Hour Board.
I enjoy coming here to discuss and debate people's answers. Usually, something that sparks my interest will be something I have an opposing viewpoint on. I want to explore the other side's reasoning or at least convey another line of reasoning to get a discussion on it started. If that constitutes "hate," then I'm a hater.
Now, I definitely fall into some more classical definitions of hate. I often hate Hypatia's answers. In that, I mean I disagree with them and I find them personally aggravating. But I think that's more of a personal problem, and I generally don't come here to post about them. I don't think many people come here to actually hate, I think they come to offer a different point of view. It's like being a writer without the minimum requirements.