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#64510 - Sunburned scalp

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:56 am
by Katya
https://theboard.byu.edu/questions/64510/
Rating Pending wrote: had to look up the word "redden" to make sure he wasn't inventing it. Weird word.

It's time for fun linguistics facts! The suffix "-en" was used in Middle English and early Modern English to make adjectives into verbs. So "red" + "-en" = "redden," which means "to make red."

Other verbs formed on the same pattern are "whiten," "blacken," "brighten," "darken," "loosen," "deepen," "harden," "soften," "weaken," "strengthen," "lighten," and "fasten" (from "fast" in the sense of "secure," not in the sense of "quick").

Re: #64510 - Sunburned scalp

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:44 am
by Digit
Those are all adjectives, and another one is "short," so to make short is "shorten." But to make long is not "longen," it's "lengthen," where length is a noun. I wonder why lengthen is a "noun class" instead of an "adjective class."

Re: #64510 - Sunburned scalp

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:48 am
by Katya
Digit wrote:Those are all adjectives, and another one is "short," so to make short is "shorten." But to make long is not "longen," it's "lengthen," where length is a noun. I wonder why lengthen is a "noun class" instead of an "adjective class."
Actually, I've just realized you could make the same argument for strong / strength / strengthen. Quick! To the OED!

Re: #64510 - Sunburned scalp

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:50 am
by Digit
Yeah, I also thought of strong and -ong/-ength in general after I hit submit too.

Re: #64510 - Sunburned scalp

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:55 am
by Katya
OK, for what it's worth, both "strength" and "length" were verbs in Middle English. (E.g. "When your eyes haue done their part, Thought must length it in the hart.") So perhaps the "-en" suffix was added by analogy with other "-en" verb forms as those forms became more popular.

Re: #64510 - Sunburned scalp

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:56 am
by Katya
Also, "strongen" and "longen" sound weird. (More formally stated, perhaps there was some phonetic constraint which prevented those forms from being adopted.)

Re: #64510 - Sunburned scalp

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:26 pm
by Marduk
Phonetic constraint never seems to have stopped us in the past.

Re: #64510 - Sunburned scalp

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:42 pm
by Katya
Sure it has. It's why we say "dogs" and "churches" with a final /z/ sound instead of a final /s/ sound (even though /s/ is the base form).