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"Oh my heck" vs "Oh my hell"
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:11 pm
by yayfulness
For years, I thought that "oh my heck" was just another unique thing about a rather unique aunt of mine. It took me years to figure out that it's actually a Utah phrase. And today, for the first time, I read the phrase "oh my [not heck]." Now I'm really curious about its origin.
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:02 pm
by Portia
yayfulness wrote:For years, I thought that "oh my heck" was just another unique thing about a rather unique aunt of mine. It took me years to figure out that it's actually a Utah phrase. And today, for the first time, I read the phrase "oh my [not heck]." Now I'm really curious about its origin.
Hell? No one says that that. God, perhaps, or "what the" (fill that one in with an
h or an
f.) But "oh my hell" is NOT a thing.
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:03 pm
by Katya
Portia wrote:yayfulness wrote:For years, I thought that "oh my heck" was just another unique thing about a rather unique aunt of mine. It took me years to figure out that it's actually a Utah phrase. And today, for the first time, I read the phrase "oh my [not heck]." Now I'm really curious about its origin.
Hell? No one says that that. God, perhaps, or "what the" (fill that one in with an
h or an
f.) But "oh my hell" is NOT a thing.
I've heard it.
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:16 pm
by Marduk
I've heard it too. Although it seems more common just to drop the "oh."
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:17 pm
by bobtheenchantedone
I've heard "oh my heck" used, but pretty much only in parodies. The phrase I have heard is "what the heck."
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:33 pm
by Portia
bobtheenchantedone wrote:I've heard "oh my heck" used, but pretty much only in parodies. The phrase I have heard is "what the heck."
I feel like this is the better euphemism, as "what the hell" is certainly used.
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:35 pm
by Portia
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:23 pm
by Katya
So the phrase "oh my heck" doesn't exist, either?
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:43 pm
by Portia
Katya wrote:
So the phrase "oh my heck" doesn't exist, either?
http://corpus.byu.edu/coca/
does return one (but only one) result for spoken English.
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:09 pm
by Katya
Portia wrote:Katya wrote:
So the phrase "oh my heck" doesn't exist, either?
http://corpus.byu.edu/coca/
does return one (but only one) result for spoken English.
I still don't understand what hypothesis you're trying to support.
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:09 pm
by Giovanni Schwartz
Ha. Google returns more results for "Oh my heck" than "Oh my hell".
Edit:
And there's even
Oh My Heck Marketing!
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:10 pm
by Katya
Giovanni Schwartz wrote:Ha. Google returns more results for "Oh my heck" than "Oh my hell".
Nice! What are the ratios?
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:42 pm
by Portia
Katya wrote:Giovanni Schwartz wrote:Ha. Google returns more results for "Oh my heck" than "Oh my hell".
Nice! What are the ratios?
oh my heck: 300,000
oh my hell: 269,000
what the heck: 30,000,000
what the hell: 618,000,000
This lines up with my hypothesis, which is that "oh my hell" is awkward and rarely used.
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:58 pm
by Katya
Portia wrote:Katya wrote:Giovanni Schwartz wrote:Ha. Google returns more results for "Oh my heck" than "Oh my hell".
Nice! What are the ratios?
oh my heck: 300,000
oh my hell: 269,000
what the heck: 30,000,000
what the hell: 618,000,000
This lines up with my hypothesis, which is that "oh my hell" is awkward and rarely used.
Rarely used as compared to "what the heck" and "what the hell" or as compared to "oh my heck"?
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:49 pm
by Portia
Katya wrote:Rarely used as compared to "what the heck" and "what the hell" or as compared to "oh my heck"?
All. I've never heard someone say it.
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:49 pm
by Marduk
There's no way to verify this with regards to spoken language, however.
Unless your secondary hypothesis is that the spoken word perfectly reflects the written word.
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:12 am
by Katya
Portia wrote:Katya wrote:Rarely used as compared to "what the heck" and "what the hell" or as compared to "oh my heck"?
All. I've never heard someone say it.
OK. Yayfulness brought up "oh my heck" as an unusual phrase and "oh my hell" as an even more unusual phrase. You claimed that "oh my hell" definitively does not exist as a phrase, based on your personal experience. Other commenters offered counterexamples, based on their personal experience (which is the same standard you were using). The Google hits data also backs up the claim that "oh my hell" exists as a phrase and, intriguingly, is slightly less common than "oh my heck." And yes, that data also demonstrates that "oh my heck/hell" is orders of magnitude less common than "what the heck/hell," which I don't think is something that anyone is disputing, but it wasn't really the point of the conversation.
(Also, as Marduk pointed out, corpus data can be problematic when it comes to slang or casual usage, which is likely to be more common in speech than in writing.)
Re: Happy Days in Random Chatter 10
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:45 am
by C is for
WOULD PEOPLE STOP SWEARING IN HERE IT'S MAKING ME EDGY
Re: "Oh my heck" vs "Oh my hell"
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:08 am
by NerdGirl
I have never heard "oh my hell" but I have heard "oh, for hell's sake." One of my Sunday school teachers in high school used to say that. And I have heard "oh my heck" A LOT, but not so much outside of Utah unless it's being said sarcastically.
Re: "Oh my heck" vs "Oh my hell"
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:29 am
by Yarjka
It's a hecking swear word, it will be used however the hell people feel like.