Humor will not be tolerated!! -Portia

My best friend JoJo's mom told her that it seemed like JoJo would be happier if she (the mom) had died in a plane crash. I am so sick of this woman.

If I had a nickel for every time someone saw me for the first time in 18 months looked me up and down and said, "You look so...normal!" as if it's so surprising, I could probably pay for all my textbooks next semester. No, I'm not still wearing a long skirt 4 days later. Nice to see you again too.

The Soulful Ginger wrote: Women are just sometimes crazy and feel like they need to make a big deal about wearing dress pants to church.

My mother was offended that I wore slacks to the chapel for my grandfather's funeral.

My bishop formed an opinion about my character based partially on me wearing slacks to church.

Marduk's mother assumes I didn't go to church when she sees me in slacks on Sunday and is always disappointed to find that I went to church like that.

I'm not the one making a big deal out of this! Also, way to be condescending by calling us "crazy."

bobtheenchantedone wrote:

The Soulful Ginger wrote: Women are just sometimes crazy and feel like they need to make a big deal about wearing dress pants to church.

My mother was offended that I wore slacks to the chapel for my grandfather's funeral.

My bishop formed an opinion about my character based partially on me wearing slacks to church.

Marduk's mother assumes I didn't go to church when she sees me in slacks on Sunday and is always disappointed to find that I went to church like that.

I'm not the one making a big deal out of this! Also, way to be condescending by calling us "crazy."

I think it varies by location. In the Maritimes, people seriously could not care less if someone wore pants to church. Many of the older ladies, especially, wore nice slacks or pantsuits, and I can think of at least 1 younger woman who wore pants to church in each of the units I served in. So it's possible that TSG grew up in an area where it wasn't a big deal and therefore sees the hype as overblown, whereas it sounds like you, bob, are somewhere a little less broad-minded when it comes to that sort of thing, and so it makes sense that you're annoyed about it.

Emiliana wrote:My best friend JoJo's mom told her that it seemed like JoJo would be happier if she (the mom) had died in a plane crash. I am so sick of this woman.

She has something something going on upstairs. Histrionic much?

Zedability wrote:If I had a nickel for every time someone saw me for the first time in 18 months looked me up and down and said, "You look so...normal!" as if it's so surprising, I could probably pay for all my textbooks next semester. No, I'm not still wearing a long skirt 4 days later. Nice to see you again too.

But long skirts are a thing now! I saw a midi length at Nordstrom and was like, wha-what? (Then bought the knee-length dress, natch.)

Portia wrote:

Emiliana wrote:My best friend JoJo's mom told her that it seemed like JoJo would be happier if she (the mom) had died in a plane crash. I am so sick of this woman.

She has something something going on upstairs. Histrionic much?

You have no idea...this is the most recent and probably most heinous of her crimes, but there is a long history of manipulative BS goin on here...

People who ask for your help on something, or ask you to show them how to do it when they haven't even looked at what needs to be done. This happened to me three times today and it took almost three hours of my time when what I was explaining took me 15 minutes on my own.

I AM SO SICK OF MOST OF THE OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOL THEATRE TEACHERS IN MY DISTRICT!!! I'f I'm not teaching high school next year, I AM DONE WITH TEACHING IN THIS CITY. SERIOUSLY. I can't handle their laziness and whining ANYMORE.

Emiliana wrote:

Portia wrote:

Emiliana wrote:My best friend JoJo's mom told her that it seemed like JoJo would be happier if she (the mom) had died in a plane crash. I am so sick of this woman.

She has something something going on upstairs. Histrionic much?

You have no idea...this is the most recent and probably most heinous of her crimes, but there is a long history of manipulative BS goin on here...

Gross. Is she even funny, like Lucille Bluth? I hate women sometimes. Manipulative ones like this give the rest of us a bad name.

I bought the wrong sizes of clothes for my family and now I have to take them back

Tried to read the Board. Several questions made me groan (It's so important that we remain "pure" for our husbands y'all). Can't deal with this today.

bobtheenchantedone wrote:Tried to read the Board. Several questions made me groan (It's so important that we remain "pure" for our husbands y'all). Can't deal with this today.

To be fair, that assumption came more from Waited than the answer. I did find the analogy with Pontius Pilate to be somewhat over-the-top (I don't think of this, or any other thing in relationships, in terms of "betrayal" of someone we don't know yet), however, the crux of the answer dealt with forgiveness.

I felt that the issue of her fearing comparison was not adequately addressed. I think this is a common fear from the person with less experience, whether that's fewer relationships, virgin/not-virgin, and age gap, whatever. But I don't think it's worth obsessing over. Only really insensitive jerks compare you to someone else, and not being a virgin doesn't make you a priori a jerk.

bob, the trick is that once you don't believe in the Church/have major major issues with it/your beliefs don't align so well with the writers' and other readers', then you have to skip a lot of questions and answers for your own sanity.

(On the plus side, for me at least, this means I don't waste as much time on the Board.)

Also, good points Portia.

I think bob is a social justice warrior though whose uniquely, err, interesting upbringing makes her ready to Fight the Man. Haha :)

uh oh... But I'M the Man....

I was referring to just the question; I actually didn't read the answer at all because I couldn't deal. I am so sick of purity rhetoric.

I want to fight the Man so much (not you, Marduk; you're only "the man" not "the Man" and don't you start getting grand ideas otherwise) but I'm so tired these days. Especially when fighting means that my sister has to hang on me sobbing and asking why I she can't come with me. The answer is "mom doesn't want you to end up like me so she won't let you spend time with me unless she's there to counteract my liberal, feminist, porn-shoulder-bearing ways."

I just got in a friendship-ending fight with my roommate over feminist stuff. The RS pres in our ward sent out this survey with this silly paragraph at the beginning that was just very childish and infantalizing and it bothered me so I bounced that idea off my roommate and she flipped out on me. Like all over the place and then it escalated really fast and now basically we're not friends.

I mean, she was a mess anyways and a terrible friend. I literally did everything for her and she was terrible to me. But it just sucks, you know? And she knows how much I struggle with the way women are often treated/treat each other in the church and how sexist my teen years were and she was just like "Oh, get over it! I don't want to deal with your whining right now" and wanted to make it about her and her boyfriend breaking up (I neglected to remind her that the night that happened I stayed with her, bought her food, drove her around, listened to her cry AND stayed up way late even though I had an EXTREMELY important job interview early the next morning that I had just been informed of). And she literally has done nothing for me. She has never supported me, never listened to me...

I have never fought with someone like that before-- not to the extent that we did. But now I don't feel bad about it. I just don't. I feel zero guilt for standing up for myself and I'm not apologizing like the last time, where she failed to come to an event that was extremely important to me. Bad friends are the worse. And I seem to collect them because I start thinking "If I was better they would treat me better" and I make it my fault.

So finally I ended it telling her to leave the money she owed me (120 bucks from a time I stepped up to pay for her halloween decorations after her card wasn't working to save her embarrassment and awkwardness) and just not talk to me again. Drama is the worst.

so... she's basically using you? that sucks.