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Why Tazers should be banned

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:20 am
by orb360
I think that Tazers are way overused... It's like a form of legalized torture.

Many Police officers jump at the chance to use their Tazers (or mabye it's spelled Taser?) when they don't need to, ought not to, or even when it's dangerous to others.

For instance... The famous "Don't Tase Me Bro" kid... The officers already had him in custody... Why tasing him helped I don't know... The electricity through his body just made him convulse more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3FFnpS-eYA

Then there is the Missouri boy. He fell off an overpass and broke his back and his foot. When the police arrived he was incoherent and saying things like "shoot cops" and "kill cops". Still, with a broken back and foot... I doubt he was in any position to act on these words and was probably in a lot of pain. But they still found it necessary to taser the kid NINETEEEN times before taking him to the hospital for treatment

http://rawstory.com//news/2008/Missouri ... _0726.html

Even scarier... Evidently police think it's perfectly ok to taser little children... and it's LEGAL.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/no ... ildren.htm
http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/tas ... ildren.htm

They are not even fully developed and you want to pass a few hundred thousand volts through them. I don't even think most young kids would understand.

Finally... Don't argue with a cop... Evidently, even being pregnant won't stop them from tasering you if you don't agree....

http://www.pacificviews.org/weblog/archives/001236.html

The woman in question decided not to sign the ticket... And guess what... You don't have to sign tickets... If you don't it's a little extra work for the officer... But signing tickets is COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY AND OPTIONAL.

Oh? You don't want to sign the ticket? Well... it's not illegal to refuse... But I'm going to taser you and your unborn child anyway.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:51 am
by Imogen
i'm sorry, but if my BACK is broken, you better believe i'll refuse to comply with officers too. i don't care what he was mumbling incoherently.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:22 am
by Nanti-SARRMM
Imogen wrote:i'm sorry, but if my BACK is broken, you better believe i'll refuse to comply with officers too. i don't care what he was mumbling incoherently.
Yeah, but a taser isn't going to get him to comply in that state anyways.

Also, some guy died from it as well.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:52 am
by Imogen
Nanti-SARRMM wrote:
Imogen wrote:i'm sorry, but if my BACK is broken, you better believe i'll refuse to comply with officers too. i don't care what he was mumbling incoherently.
Yeah, but a taser isn't going to get him to comply in that state anyways.

Also, some guy died from it as well.
that's my point! it's no good! i can't imagine the thought process "well, he's saying 'kill cops,' but he can't move. looks like he won't be getting up. maybe if i tase him he'll miraculously heal form his 30 foot fall. oop, didn't work. i'll try again."

sometimes the idiocy of cops astounds me. TRULY astounds me.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:01 am
by Whistler
there's more to the "don't taze me bro" incident than the youtube video suggests; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University ... r_incident

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:26 am
by orb360
Yes I realize he wanted to be tased...

But that was just one of the many scenarios... And even if he wanted to be tased... that doesn't mean he should have been.

And... for the record... he was shouting "dont tase me bro!" (regardless of ulterior motives)

Also... I have a graph proving my point...

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Why tazers should NOT be banned

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:42 pm
by Benvolio
I defintely think that a lot of law enforcement officers use tasers excessively and innapropriately. But I'm not prepared to do away with them altogether. The alternatives are things like batons or firearms, which are worse. Pepper spray may be an alternative in some situations, but not always. I am opposed to the improper use of tasers, but not the tools themselves. Until a better device is developed, they are still the best option in many circumstances.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:36 pm
by Arcaiden
If a police officer wants to abuse someone they are arresting, not having a taser on their person isn't going to stop them. Trust me when I say that a baton, flashlight, radio, or even bare fists will work just fine for this purpose. The solution isn't to remove tasers from the picture, but to better select and train our officers.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:56 pm
by Nanti-SARRMM
Arcaiden wrote:If a police officer wants to abuse someone they are arresting, not having a taser on their person isn't going to stop them. Trust me when I say that a baton, flashlight, radio, or even bare fists will work just fine for this purpose. The solution isn't to remove tasers from the picture, but to better select and train our officers.
And to have better policies and laws in case abuse happens for those officers who use excessive or unnecessary force.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:42 pm
by orb360
Citizen's Arrest!!

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:01 am
by Nanti-SARRMM
orb360 wrote:Citizen's Arrest!!
And the officer pulls rank and tasers them.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:08 pm
by orb360
And then they scream "Don't tase me bro! Don't tase me!! AGHAAGHA! AAHGAGA!!!!!! AGHAAGAAA!!!!"

And you are not supposed to be agreeing with me...

You're supposed to be arguing!

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:34 pm
by Giovanni Schwartz

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:48 pm
by orb360
Plop-Plop??

Seriously...

I think the bird had it coming...