VP picks

Nanti-SARRMM · Post by **Nanti-SARRMM** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:26 am

So what are your thoughts on Biden and Palin? Do you think they will help their candidates in the areas they need help from?

Fredjikrang · Post by **Fredjikrang** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:36 am

Well, they rhyme. . .

Nanti-SARRMM · Post by **Nanti-SARRMM** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:51 am

Fredjikrang wrote:Well, they rhyme. . .

Very True.

I am not sure what to think about Gov. Palin at this moment. I just watched the speech she gave in acceptance of vp nominee, and she seems sincere, and honest. But I am still not sure what to think yet.

orb360 · Post by **orb360** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:57 am

I'd vote for Ah-nold... He will terminate the competition...

GET TO DA CHOPPA!!

yellow m&m · Post by **yellow m&m** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:02 am

I don't know much about politics. I did watch the Democratic Convention the other night, and it was very interesting. I just need to do some actual research.

Nanti-SARRMM · Post by **Nanti-SARRMM** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:05 am

orb360 wrote:I'd vote for Ah-nold... He will terminate the competition...

GET TO DA CHOPPA!!

dude. Cmon, put the silliness at the end of the topic.

I think I shall now issue a formal apology for having interrupted serious topics with silliness. I am clearly the lesser of two sillies and have seen the error of my ways.

And yes Yellow MM, I need to research more as well.

Imogen · Post by **Imogen** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:11 am

i worry about biden...

palin seems lovely. i like her more than mccain.

Nanti-SARRMM · Post by **Nanti-SARRMM** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:17 am

Imogen wrote:i worry about biden...

palin seems lovely. i like her more than mccain.

She does seem genuinely honest. When I first heard that she was picked and heard about her limited experience I was wary, but after hearing her talk and looking her up on the Wiki, I think she is a very good choice. So much to hope that McCain gets a heart attack in the first year of presidency to have her take the lead.

orb360 · Post by **orb360** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:22 am

Honestly... I don't see the point in voting this year.

As far as I'm concerned, both candidates are concentrated evil. And the VP doesn't really do much unless the President has to leave office early for some reason. (Which shouldn't happen as both appear to be in good health and the Secret Service is as James Bond-esqe as ever...)

Obama wants his unified health care crap which is totally stupid... Just look at Canada... Their health care SUCKS.

and McCain is just a mini-Bush waiting to get into office. I wouldn't be surprised if they adopted him at some point. He's just going to further their agenda.

And it doesn't help when Paris Hilton can come up with a better energy plan than either candidate.

Nanti-SARRMM · Post by **Nanti-SARRMM** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:30 am

orb360 wrote:Honestly... I don't see the point in voting this year.

What are your thoughts on Bob Barr?

orb360 · Post by **orb360** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:13 pm

Bob Barr was on with Colbert... So he gets coolness points for that...

But Obama was too. (He lost his times infinity by voting for FISA...)

I haven't followed politics too much lately though so I'd have to do some research.

Imogen · Post by **Imogen** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:17 pm

actually, obama doesn't want universal health care for adults, just for children under 18, which is smart because it's not like 12 year olds can get jobs with benefits. and my friend from canada loves their health care system so much that she retained her citizenship when she moved here. it's certainly not perfect, but our system isn't perfect either.

though i think palin seems lovely, i'm still not voting for mccain. i don't need some old white guy all up in my uterus/personal business.

orb360 · Post by **orb360** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:33 pm

Imogen wrote: i don't need some old white guy all up in my uterus/personal business.

It's not Uter-YOU... it's Uter-US.

And because Canada's health care is free... You just go to the emergency room... for everything... and they HAVE to serve you in first come first serve...

So you can sit there with your bleeding compound fracture while I get to skip ahead because I have a headache.

Benvolio · Post by **Benvolio** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:41 pm

Imogen wrote:though i think palin seems lovely, i'm still not voting for mccain. i don't need some old white guy all up in my uterus/personal business.

Surely these are wise bases for choosing a world leader.

Imogen · Post by **Imogen** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:22 pm

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/34180

just read.

also, this issue is very important to me because i have a uterus. so don't tell me my reasons are unimportant in your snarky tone. kthanks.

orb360 · Post by **orb360** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:35 pm

Imogen wrote:http://www.theonion.com/content/node/34180

just read.

also, this issue is very important to me because i have a uterus. so don't tell me my reasons are unimportant in your snarky tone. kthanks.

The Onion is hardly a reliable data source...

That being said... I think the general makes some very valid points. The lady seems off her rocker though.

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In all seriousness though Imogen. You are wrong.

The US government can tell you what to do with your body... (well they can tell me anyway... do women have to sign up for the draft?)

They can draft me and tell me to go to Iraq and give my life for my country.

Surely telling you to carry a baby to term is a much lower price to pay.

(but now I'm just being argumentative again...)

Imogen · Post by **Imogen** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:43 pm

yeah but i'm against the draft, so that is a moot point for me. i don't think they have a right to tell you to go die, and they don't have the right to tell me to stay pregnant, which can be life threatening also.

Imogen · Post by **Imogen** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:32 pm

i just read an article that made an interesting point about Palin: she's more inexperienced than Obama. if McCain dies, she's our president. and since McCain has harped about Obama's experience level, this seems odd.

Post by **bobtheenchantedone** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:24 pm

Most people don't plan on dying in office. McCain's probably counting on living.

Tao · Post by **Tao** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:20 pm

As far as I'm concerned, both candidates are concentrated evil.

Sadly, I'd say this view has been too common for the last number of presidential elections. It sure would be nice to experiance a campaign that openly noted a canidate's potential faults and countered with balancing virtues, and let the masses get their info on the opposition from the source. It's a shame to have slander be the campaign and elections won off of "the better of two evils" mentality. On a related note: I usually don't mind political satire, and even the most extremist rants will usually receive at least my polite attention, but that Onion article was rather painful to read. Coming from the Onion, I am somewhat tempted to believe that it is a ploy by an unscrupulous writer attempting to advance a right wing viewpoint by arguing a left wing stance so poorly. I don't know if I am moved to the left from the ostensible message, to the right from it's presentation, or to the left from the fact that I find it a shameful tactic to use. Satire is a subtle tool, I don't feel it was used correctly here.